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15:00:59 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Yohooo
15:01:18 <sophi> Hello!
15:01:27 <x1sc0> hello there
15:01:48 <x1sc0> so let's get started with may's qa meeting
15:02:11 <x1sc0> who is around for the meeting ?
15:02:24 <buovjaga> I'm not very around
15:02:31 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Sophi: o/
15:03:12 <x1sc0> before we get started, any of you has any topic that you would like to discuss during the meeting ?
15:03:22 <djredaux> Howdy, sorry for being late
15:03:30 <x1sc0> djredaux, hi
15:03:54 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> X1sc0: double message when bot changes bugs
15:04:09 <x1sc0> yep, I've already added that to the agenda
15:04:15 <x1sc0> anything else?
15:04:19 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Cool
15:04:54 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Change Additionak information to Add info from Help-About
15:05:05 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> In bugreport form
15:05:19 <sophi> just a request on my side: send your talk proposals for LibOCon :)
15:05:41 <x1sc0> @K​ompilainenn, added
15:06:54 <x1sc0> sophi, indeed, if any of you is giving a talk at LiboConf, please send your proposals before mid June
15:07:25 <x1sc0> sophi, I'll send mine this week
15:07:39 <sophi> x1sc0: thanks!
15:08:08 <x1sc0> ok, let's follow the agenda
15:08:17 <x1sc0> #topic Recurrent tasks
15:08:59 <x1sc0> any BZ contributor you would like to propose to give them more rights ?
15:09:17 <x1sc0> or any wiki page that needs attention ?
15:09:38 <x1sc0> I still have to create the screencast page as we agreed last meeting
15:10:43 <x1sc0> anything at all ?
15:11:00 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> No
15:11:26 <x1sc0> ok, let's keep moving then
15:11:33 <x1sc0> so we're reaching the end of the month
15:11:58 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Yes
15:11:58 <x1sc0> please, do not forget to add the relevant info to https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
15:12:12 <x1sc0> for the next monthly report
15:12:21 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Noel is a great man
15:12:36 <x1sc0> I know I know
15:12:42 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> :D
15:13:09 <x1sc0> I don't see many new features in 6.3 but it's full of performance improvements and fixes
15:13:22 <x1sc0> many old regressions got fixed in this version
15:13:26 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Gulsah made new in bullet&numbering
15:13:45 <x1sc0> yep
15:14:10 <x1sc0> I think it's gonna be a great version
15:14:16 <djredaux> Gulsah?
15:14:32 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Yes
15:14:39 <x1sc0> Gülşah Köse
15:14:47 <djredaux> OK, a person. got it
15:15:24 <x1sc0> from turkey
15:15:38 <x1sc0> so, let's move to the next topic
15:15:55 <x1sc0> #topic Automated message: annoying ? improvements? ideas?
15:16:14 <x1sc0> so in this month I've been automating some bugzilla actions
15:17:02 <x1sc0> like if a bug is in NEEDINFO and the reporter replies to the bug without moving it to UNCONFIRMED
15:17:16 <x1sc0> it will automatically be moved to UNCONFIRMED
15:17:33 <x1sc0> so we prevent NEEDINFO bugs to go unnoticed
15:17:49 <sophi> great idea
15:18:23 <x1sc0> same for UNCONFIRMED bugs, we tag them with QA:needsComment if no action has been done from the QA team in 14 days after it got reported
15:19:14 <x1sc0> do you have any other action in mind that could be automated ?
15:19:48 <x1sc0> OTOH, do you find this automation annoying? I know kompi said the message when they are moved from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED is
15:19:59 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Needinfo to influcient data?
15:20:21 <bearon> x1sc0: is there an easy to access query for the needsComment bugs?
15:20:22 <x1sc0> @K​ompilainenn, oh yes, that has been also automated
15:20:52 <x1sc0> bearon, sure, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/GetInvolved#Unconfirmed_reports_without_comments
15:21:07 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Bearon: for example on page with retest bugs in the wiki
15:21:25 <x1sc0> I put it in the getinvolved page so newcomers have easy access to it
15:21:33 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Cool
15:21:37 <bearon> thanks!
15:21:43 <djredaux> The wiki pages with links to canned reports include one for needsinfo already
15:21:46 <marcoagpinto> bearon!!!!
15:21:47 <marcoagpinto> >:)
15:21:50 <bearon> hey
15:22:05 <marcoagpinto> did you receive my e-mail?
15:22:06 <marcoagpinto> :)
15:22:21 <bearon> marcoagpinto: yes, but there's a meeting going on
15:22:25 <marcoagpinto> ahhh
15:22:27 <marcoagpinto> sorry
15:22:29 <x1sc0> bearon, it's at 68 right now, it was at 115 when we started
15:22:32 <x1sc0> so it's getting better
15:22:53 <djredaux> for example I use this page for canned reports https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Components/Database/Help
15:24:13 <x1sc0> so @K​ompilainenn, so, as far as I know, the problem you have is with the two emails sent when changing the status, right ?
15:26:49 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Yes
15:27:44 <x1sc0> well, as I said, we have the same situation with the commit notification, one email for the target string in the whiteboard and one for the comment
15:28:10 <x1sc0> personally I would prefer to have 2 email and have a comment explaining why the status was changed
15:28:26 <x1sc0> any other opinion ?
15:28:42 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> It would be combine into only one
15:28:59 <x1sc0> that's not possible using the rest api
15:29:22 <x1sc0> the comment is done with a post and the status change with a put
15:29:55 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> But if someone create a bug and subscribe me at once i get only one e-mail with all info about bug
15:30:22 <bearon> because that's not done via the rest api
15:30:37 <x1sc0> yep, I know, but that's done from the website
15:30:54 <bearon> does this only concern the needsComment change?
15:31:03 <x1sc0> in this case, we have  a technical limitation
15:31:15 <bearon> in our case
15:31:20 <x1sc0> bearon, no, it only concerns bugs moving from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED automatically
15:31:49 <x1sc0> so it writes this comment: [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed
15:32:50 <bearon> i see
15:33:29 <x1sc0> i know it might be a bit annoying
15:33:41 <x1sc0> but it's not that bad to me, imho
15:34:00 <bearon> i don't see a lot of information in that message, but i'm also not bothered by two e-mails instead of one
15:35:24 <x1sc0> I propose kompi to add a filter to the email client
15:35:44 <bearon> to filter out bugzilla mail ;)
15:35:50 <x1sc0> if this gets him on his nerves
15:36:20 <IZBot> News from tdfnew: [Bug 125558] Cannot import Libreoffice calc to pdf <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125558>
15:36:27 <x1sc0> yep, I'm thinking of adding a filter to all bugzilla mails
15:37:33 <buovjaga> In the future, this might not be a problem. Bugzilla devs are trying out different APIs, such as GraphQL. Maybe a more powerful way to change the reports will be possible
15:38:14 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> I will be happy... after 2030 year-(
15:38:34 <x1sc0> oh, great, so I would propose to leave it like that for the time being and reevaluate once we have the new bugzilla
15:38:59 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Of course
15:39:26 <x1sc0> ok, great, thanks
15:39:30 <x1sc0> next topic
15:39:43 <x1sc0> #topic Change Additional information to Add info from Help-About
15:40:16 <x1sc0> @K​ompilainenn, I guess you meant in https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOffice&format=guided, right ?
15:40:17 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> Many bug reporters didn't add this info
15:40:30 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> And we should ask him always
15:41:38 <x1sc0> yep, I agree
15:42:14 <x1sc0> let me quickly create a redmine ticket
15:42:16 <djredaux> So the question is about changing the default new issue form?
15:42:18 <x1sc0> so I don't forget
15:43:03 <djredaux> To include an additional information box with the prompt to include the HELP->ABOUT info?
15:43:10 <x1sc0> djredaux, change the form to make it clearer
15:43:16 <djredaux> If so, then yes #agreed
15:43:53 <x1sc0> specially useful nowadays with the mix of opengl, gtk3, kde5, etc...
15:44:04 <djredaux> Well, I should say I agree that any change that would get more to do that would be useful.
15:45:58 <x1sc0> reported in https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2895
15:45:59 <IZBot> redmine: » Change Additional information to Add info from Help-About« in Infrastructure (Task for Xisco Fauli Tarazona) [New]
15:46:03 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> And zoo of linux distro
15:46:15 <x1sc0> I'll work on it asap
15:46:21 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> With their dustro problems
15:46:37 <x1sc0> ok, that's it
15:46:47 <x1sc0> any other topic before we close the meeting ?
15:47:51 <lo-qa-tg14> <K​ompilainenn> I don't have it
15:48:47 <x1sc0> ok, in that case, see you around
15:48:58 <x1sc0> and happy triaging
15:48:59 <djredaux> Adios
15:49:31 <x1sc0> adeu
15:49:33 <x1sc0> #endmeeting