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15:01:02 <x1sc0> anyone around for the QA meeting or is everyone still on vacation ?
15:02:06 <imdeni> I've just joined the IRC and have no clue about anything. Are these meetings weekly? 🙂
15:02:15 <x1sc0> hi imdeni
15:02:22 <x1sc0> welcome to the QA channel
15:02:27 <x1sc0> they are monthly
15:02:58 <x1sc0> depending on the meeting there's topics to discuss about or not
15:04:15 <x1sc0> imdeni, did you join the channel for any reason? is there any specific question you would like to ask?
15:04:24 <x1sc0> or just to hang around?
15:04:54 <buovjaga> x1sc0: I am around
15:05:07 <x1sc0> buovjaga, hi there
15:05:47 <x1sc0> let's wait a few minutes to see if someone else joins
15:06:07 <x1sc0> from my side, there's one topic I would like to discuss
15:06:35 <marcoagpinto> I have to go rest... sorry... bbl
15:06:36 <marcoagpinto> :(
15:06:45 <x1sc0> marcoagpinto, siesta time ?
15:06:56 <marcoagpinto> yes, I have been working on my thesis very hard
15:06:59 <marcoagpinto> and I am tired
15:07:32 <x1sc0> ok, see you later
15:07:39 <marcoagpinto> take care
15:09:06 <x1sc0> well, let's get started then
15:09:42 <x1sc0> buovjaga, I would like to discuss ( or make an open question ) about the weekly report
15:09:51 <x1sc0> #topic weekly report
15:10:10 <x1sc0> I've been sending it weekly for more than a year now
15:10:38 <x1sc0> and I would like to know if anyone finds it useful
15:10:55 <x1sc0> or how it could be improved
15:11:30 <x1sc0> to make it clearer
15:12:42 <buovjaga> I think it is useful
15:14:12 <x1sc0> buovjaga, do you find it clear how it's right now ?
15:15:04 <buovjaga> yeah
15:15:29 <x1sc0> right now, it reflects the last change of bugs
15:15:59 <x1sc0> so if a bug goes from UNCONFIRMED to NEW, then to ASSIGNED and finally to FIX, it just reflects the last change
15:21:51 <x1sc0> well, then I'll leave it like that
15:22:45 <x1sc0> I thought we could create a monthly report in the QA blog instead
15:23:03 <x1sc0> so I don't annoy people with an email every week
15:23:41 <buovjaga> then you could use emojis
15:23:48 <djredaux> sorry I'm late.
15:24:00 <x1sc0> djredaux, eih, welcome
15:24:33 <djredaux> the monthly blog idea vs weekly email sounds fine to me BTW
15:24:35 <x1sc0> well, that's true, would be easier to add charts or anything if needede
15:25:04 <x1sc0> djredaux, do you find the weekly report useful as it's right now ?
15:25:51 <djredaux> Not all that much. Pretty much see it all again with ESC minutes email anyway.
15:27:18 <x1sc0> yep, the esc minutes look more interesting in general
15:29:34 <x1sc0> well, will think about it
15:29:52 <x1sc0> but it's good to know at least someone finds the weekly report useful
15:29:56 <djredaux> The part where counts are given for who did how many changes for <xx> don't have much use for me. It would if I were on the MC, but otherwise no.
15:31:19 <x1sc0> djredaux, yep, the reason why we did it like that was to give more visibility to what people is doing
15:31:55 <x1sc0> otherwise it's difficult to know what people do
15:32:12 <djredaux> Yes, I know - I was on the MC at one time.
15:33:33 <djredaux> Anyway. I do like where some of the more prominent bugs are broken out, it is hard to get a view of the overall application given its breadth otherwise.
15:36:09 <x1sc0> I'm thinking maybe it would make more sense to show in the weekly report all the changes done to bugs instead of just showing the last one...
15:37:33 <x1sc0> djredaux, you mean the most pressing bugs in the ESC meeting?
15:37:47 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> Hi all
15:37:49 <djredaux> x1sc0: yes, I suppose I do.
15:38:03 <x1sc0> hi @Kompilainenn
15:38:14 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> X1sc0: what is weekly report?
15:38:16 <djredaux> lo-qa-tg: howdy
15:38:28 <x1sc0> the one I send every week to the mailing list
15:40:49 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> Ah
15:41:15 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> Can you give me link to report for example
15:42:46 <x1sc0> http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Libreoffice-qa-Weekly-QA-Report-W30-2018-td4244966.html
15:44:41 <imdeni> x1sc0: Mostly to get an idea of what it would take to lift the user interface of the suite.
15:45:54 <x1sc0> imdeni, would you like to help to improve the UI ?
15:46:02 <x1sc0> we have a UX Team in LibreOffice as well
15:46:34 <imdeni> x1sc0: I’m well aware. Just starting out by getting an overview of everything 😊
15:51:25 <x1sc0> @Kompilainenn, first time you see it ?
15:51:33 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> X1sc0: it's a very good report
15:51:58 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> I like to get it every month
15:52:19 <x1sc0> @Kompilainenn oh thanks, you should join the mailing list if you're not in yet
15:52:19 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> Yes,i see it first time
15:52:30 <x1sc0> now I send it every week
15:52:43 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> I know
15:53:28 <lo-qa-tg> <Kompilainenn> This report need publish into qa blog
15:54:05 <djredaux> Just thinking here that one advantage of a blog might be to help with recruiting folks to help - the blog would be a better vehicle for sharing then an email archive.
15:54:59 <x1sc0> djredaux, yep, I agree with you
15:55:56 <x1sc0> I think i'll try to do something for this month in the beginning of next month
15:56:04 <x1sc0> publish it in the blog
15:56:16 <x1sc0> and let people suggest ideas on how to improve it
15:56:21 <x1sc0> so we can improve it over time
15:59:32 <x1sc0> ok, I think I'm going to end the meeting
15:59:36 <x1sc0> thanks for your time
15:59:46 <djredaux> Adios
15:59:48 <x1sc0> much appreciated
15:59:55 <x1sc0> #endmeeting