23:40:42 #startmeeting 23:40:42 Meeting started Wed Aug 26 23:40:42 2015 UTC. The chair is colonelqubit. Plugin info at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:40:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 23:41:05 ahoneybun: Given that we might face the same issues tomorrow morning, I'm just going to shove all of this into a meeting log for convenience :-) 23:41:30 UNCONFIRMED: up to 478 23:42:09 Still working to find a better meeting time for all. I'll send out a Doodle to QA-list today 23:42:31 #action Query for meeting day and time to QA list (Robinson) 23:43:06 So let's tackle the pending release first 23:43:09 Any feedback on 5.0.1 RC2? (release is planned for tomorrow) 23:43:25 ahoneybun: are the builds working for you? 23:43:38 I'm using the fresh ppa and it opens 23:43:50 at least impress (I use thaat the most) 23:44:04 good, good 23:45:11 ahoneybun: We do have a win10 x64 crasher (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92478) 23:45:12 bug 92478: LibreOffice-Writer major/high NEW CRASH when open "scan > scanner source" on windows 10 x64. 23:45:25 but unfortunately our Win bibisect repos are built on 32bit 23:45:39 I haz no Windows still 23:45:49 well a Win8 WM but that's it 23:46:15 but I have a small SSD so I can't think of putting it on there 23:47:10 We had trouble building on win10 for a while there, anyhow, so even if we had a buildbot feeding into a repo, we might track the problem to a range of several hundred commits... 23:47:38 wow 23:47:53 tbh I've not bug report/tested in a while 23:47:59 mostly trying to promote 23:48:09 ayup 23:48:10 and use the products as proff 23:48:16 "ayup" ? 23:48:22 *proof 23:48:35 * colonelqubit was concurring/supporting your promotional work ;-) 23:48:49 Okay, so nothing major with the RC2. Good 23:49:06 #action Email out to QA list and ask again for any feedback on the RC2 (Robinson) 23:49:34 If people do have specific issues or concerns, we can mention them on the (wiki) Release Notes page 23:49:58 ahoneybun: question for you -- have you heard much about people having issues w/Bugzilla? 23:50:16 Bugzilla is a nightmare to search 23:50:33 we were trying to find bugs relating to 5.0.0 only 23:50:34 * colonelqubit hears about/deals with most of those cases eventually, so he sees a jaded view about how often people have isseus 23:50:47 but it searches though EVERYTHING 23:50:51 including comments 23:50:58 we need filter 23:50:59 *s 23:51:56 ahoneybun: like this? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&list_id=554653&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&version=5.0.0.0.beta1&version=5.0.0.0.beta2&version=5.0.0.0.beta3&version=5.0.0.1%20rc&version=5.0.0.2%20rc&version=5.0.0.3%20rc&version=5.0.0.4%20rc&version=5.0.0.5%20release&version=5.0.1.1%20rc&version=5.0.1.2%20rc 23:52:33 Or were you looking for a list of bugs that *affect* 5.0.0 ? 23:52:43 something like that 23:52:49 (the latter one is a bit trickier, due to the way that we categorize our bugs) 23:52:49 but more easier to use 23:53:00 think newegg lol 23:53:19 * colonelqubit thinks that Moz/Bugzilla folks use some hacks to accomplish things like that 23:55:15 One method might have been to use dependencies... so perhaps create an affects-5.0.1.2 bug 23:55:22 (yeah...seems pretty hackish to me) 23:58:34 sorry got busy with something 23:59:26 no prob ;) 00:00:08 Okay, so #2) New name for 'blocker' 00:01:06 The current name is confusing for newcomers 00:01:10 We don't really have blockers 00:02:26 I'm confused about it lol 00:03:19 suggestions so far include "very critical", "blaster", and some others.. 00:03:38 We haven't really come up with a great alternative 00:03:59 so it is something that stops: "blocks" release? 00:04:09 Showstopper? 00:04:24 Well, that's the thing: We dont' really have bugs that block release right now 00:04:37 It's possible, I guess, but it's *vanishingly* rare 00:05:06 and as you can imagine, everyone thinks that their particular pet peeve is a blocker. 00:05:07 suspenser ? 00:05:27 bjoern suggests that we just restrict access, which is definitely one possibility... 00:06:10 That way only release engineers could select that level 00:10:52 We only have a limited amount of information to pass-in so far, but more will be exposed (e.g. OS, architecture bit depth, etc..) 00:13:53 cool 00:14:32 Joel had some interesting notes on bibisect for discussion in IRC, but I'd like to have more people involved 00:14:47 ahoneybun: Anything else from your end that should get some attention? 00:15:25 ummm 00:15:52 not that I can note 00:16:09 k 00:16:15 tbh I'm not sure the times/days of these meetings 00:16:29 I just don't have a life so I'm here all the time lol 00:16:53 ahoneybun: Wed at 1:30pm (well, my time); I did try earlier once, but didn't seem to get too many more people to join 00:17:18 As I said, I'll email out and ask again for when people can join 00:17:22 well its 8:16pm here now 00:17:54 ahoneybun: yes, I tried earlier, but the channel looked pretty dead -- that's why I came back now :-) 00:18:12 I want schools in my area to use LibreOffice but they are so in deep with MS 00:18:14 * colonelqubit wonders if the every-other-week thing throws peopel off 00:18:17 *people 00:18:46 Perhaps if it's just shorter and sweeter, then every week would make more people remember and join 00:19:10 * colonelqubit shrugs 00:20:21 * ahoneybun wonders how many schools will upgrade to Win10 00:21:06 how many schools are using Ubuntu right now? 00:21:12 no clue really 00:21:22 I don't even know of one 00:21:31 in my area anyway 00:21:32 I know that many people use Firefox... I always hoped that the usage would expand to LibreOffice... Thunderbird... other tools 00:21:39 yea 00:21:54 thats what my friend hopes with better KDE tools in Windows 00:22:01 but perhaps it's simpler to just jump people over to a new OS, especially if the repository has all the software a few clicks away? 00:22:15 depends if they have the tools they need 00:22:30 my dad uses some stupid coupon website that needs a problem installed 00:22:33 (I will note that people are amazed when I tell them about the LibreOffice PPAs, and how they offer up-to-date versions...) 00:22:43 that just uses ActiveX so you need Internet explorer 00:23:01 I'm using the fresh but just recently 00:23:14 I still to stable ones in my repos 00:23:23 I try to add as little PPA's as possible 00:25:35 ahoneybun: doesn't WINE have some kind of IE hack? 00:25:49 not for ActiveX 00:26:22 fair enough 00:26:43 sadly 00:26:51 my dad wants Windows back 00:26:56 just because of that 00:26:58 and Netflix 00:27:08 he could run a VM... 00:27:14 but yeah, that'd be a lot of work 00:27:25 * ahoneybun throws a firestick at Flash 00:27:50 VM does not work with printers? 00:28:02 ahoneybun: hmm... possibly 00:28:08 so tricky 00:28:12 Okay, sounds like our QA discussion is done for today. 00:28:17 yea 00:28:39 I've got a release to shove out and ESC call tomorrow morning, but I will try to connect with people and see what times would work for them 00:29:13 Thanks again for your help, and if you do have some time this week, the UNCONFIRMED bug pile is calling your name... :-) 00:29:28 I've not done much tbh 00:30:13 well, you are around here, which is appreciated :-) 00:30:16 #endmeeting 00:31:30 I try 00:33:13 ciao 01:06:44 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93693] Browsing firefox themes by clicking category name no longer works 02:03:58 holloway_: might be easier for your tests to just bibisect instead of testing so many releases 02:05:34 probably would be. Are there some docs around how to use that? 02:05:54 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bibisect/Linux 02:06:10 just four commands 03:55:19 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93694] Not possible to enable table header rows repeat from menubar || [Bug 93695] Show Chinese touch a problem || [Bug 93696] Row Break Across Pages and Columns menu entry doesnt work correctly || [Bug 93697] Size of media player dialog should be alot larger 05:25:41 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93698] Text with Shadow from MS office 2010 does not render in LO5 05:55:49 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93699] Tool Tips left behind on desktop 06:25:57 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93700] Application Freeze when resizing sidebar properties tab (right) || [Bug 93701] crash running StarDesktop.getPropertySetInfo().getProperties() 07:26:15 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93702] Highlighting active row and column 09:26:42 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93703] SVG imported does not show in presentation, but in editor 09:56:48 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93704] App crash when load any .ods files 10:42:01 hello 10:43:12 I have a bug. I want to send this bug to developer. how can i do this? 10:43:39 Calc error 12:25:24 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93706] MATCH don't work correctly with external file || [Bug 93707] When I create a form in Writer and export to pdf, Adobe readers type and only password characters appear || [Bug 93709] No way to pre-define positions of sub- and superscript || [Bug 93708] [Feature request] Add search bar for recently opened documents || [Bug 93705] LibreOffice DRAW files open on Microsoft VISIO? 12:25:59 * colonelqubit yawns 12:27:42 * mjayfrancis defends castle from invading daughter 12:27:54 I swear we buy her toys. But what is actually interesting? 12:27:59 Everything on my desk 12:28:04 Other people's phones and pads 12:28:08 Glasses 12:28:13 Bottles of all descriptions 12:28:39 Perhaps this is merely the category of "forbidden things" 12:39:59 * colonelqubit laughs 12:46:31 I cant login bugzilla 12:49:04 Mdir: hmm 12:49:26 * colonelqubit doesn't think it was caused by updating the version for 5.0.1.2 release, but... 12:50:51 Mdir: password fails, or? 12:52:43 I'm getting bug reports of drop-down menus stopping while constructing documents in 5.0. 12:54:38 dave_largo: #s? 12:55:00 I havent filed any bug reports....I'm absorbing the user information now. 12:55:11 I'll see if there are any other reports, here is what the user said: 13:06:22 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93710] Allow special character as separator for numbered headings (and similar) || [Bug 93711] Translation error (German: "Leerezeichen") in chapter numbering || [Bug 93712] The cursor does not move a way from the text in RTL mode 13:36:31 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93713] Unable to right-click Unprotect/Protect cells in Writer Tables 14:29:53 Hi 14:37:16 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93713] Unable to Unprotect Protected cells in Writer Tables from 'Table' menu 16:18:17 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93715] Open Excel Pivot Table in LO Calc causes Excel to crash. || [Bug 93717] Libre documents are now filed under Adobe and will not open. || [Bug 93714] Bring back [Un]Protect Cell context menu for protecting/unprotecting cells || [Bug 93716] FILESAVE (HTML): handles weak bidi characters as strong ones 16:20:53 colonelqubit: should users be able to set bugs to critical? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93717 16:21:11 ah jmadero was quicker than me.. was going to write I highly doubt this is LO related at all 16:21:18 steve-_-: lol 16:21:31 I just say it's not....it's probably user error 99.99% 16:21:36 if not, it's Adobe or OS error 16:21:45 yep but without OS hard to tell how to resolve this 16:21:51 steve-_-: we are blocking users from setting priority at all 16:21:51 but dev does not belong in bugzilla 16:21:59 so how come this was critical? 16:22:04 it hasn't been done yet 16:22:08 well it was, but my patch had issues 16:22:11 so it was reverted 16:22:14 ah ok. 16:22:24 * steve-_- sit's patiently waiting (: 16:22:28 * jmadero same 16:22:50 important to get this done. bugzilla needs to be effective 16:23:32 steve-_-: any idea what this is saying https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91743 16:23:33 bug 91743: LibreOffice-LibreOffice enhancement/high UNCONFIRMED Consider adding directory indexing/search 16:24:58 jmadero: Recoll? I don't understand what this is supposed to mean at all. taking about writing a good bug report… maybe a dev knows. sounds all very techie. also prob not Libreoffice but Calc component 16:25:15 but I have no clue at all tbh 16:41:24 jmadero: care to look at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93675 16:41:42 would be nice to have a second thought on this 16:42:01 sure just let me finish this checkout - keyboard on my laptop broke.... 16:42:03 PITA 16:42:17 * jmadero also had a 3TB external shit out on him two nights ago 16:42:57 jmadero: tech joy at it's best 16:43:05 always at the worst time 16:43:38 I guess I'm just lucky I know how to fix these things myself - else it would cost $150 instead of $25 16:46:16 steve-_-: so...user didn't provide a sample of what it should look like.... 16:47:38 steve-_-: you opened that docx file?? for me it's heavily corrupted lol 17:00:08 can you post a link? 17:00:10 News from tdfnew: [Bug 93718] PRINTING: Envelopes #10 Brother Printer changes to C5 17:00:20 Bug 92623 - mail merge crashes between step 6 and 7 17:00:27 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92623 17:00:28 bug 92623: LibreOffice-Writer normal/low UNCONFIRMED mail merge crashes between step 6 and 7 17:00:41 It's actually 4.4.0.0.alpha 17:00:58 On my Mac, it doesn't actually crash but hangs indefinitely 17:01:03 I have to force-quit the app 17:01:18 Let me see if it is the same step as in the bug report 17:01:41 am I blind? where are the repro steps? 17:02:50 djbello: a good bug report should have very very easy to follow reproducible steps 17:02:53 preferably enumerated 17:03:03 1. open writer; 2. click on file-> , 3... 4.... 17:03:55 Yeah, so it's not the same step as in the bug report 17:04:09 I'm getting stuck on Step 5: Adjust Layout 17:04:34 Ok, I should file a bug report then. Since this involves having a data source, how should I go about that in the bug report? 17:05:38 djbello: best to make a simple data source for us 17:05:40 the simpler the better 17:05:51 Can it be attached to the bug report? 17:05:59 our QA team is small - with 100 million users.....we ask that our users do as much as possible when reporting bugs 17:06:06 djbello: can you elaborate which steps this bug report is referring to? 17:06:09 djbello: what is the data source? just a spreadsheet? 17:06:20 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92623 17:06:21 bug 92623: LibreOffice-Writer normal/low UNCONFIRMED mail merge crashes between step 6 and 7 17:06:47 Yeah, I created an XLS output file out of SquirrelSQL using the NetBeans-supplied Derby Database and its CUSTOMER table. 17:06:59 I'm using that spreadsheet as input for the mail merge 17:07:33 But, I have to fiddle around with the Address Block and so I wouldn't want you guys to go through that 17:07:50 I will create a Spreadsheet that has all the expected fields so that it maps right away 17:07:54 Ok? 17:08:23 djbello: sounds good. the more info you can provide and the simpler the steps to reproduce the faster the bug will be resolved 17:08:44 Sure 17:09:00 I will try to gather all I need for the report. 17:09:15 I'm also going to cross check if this happens on Windows 7 17:09:21 (downloading Libre right now) 17:09:30 I recall playing with mail merge on osx and running into several problems. but never got down to the root of that back then. 17:10:03 if you can test and add your findings that would be great since OS differs quite a lot sometimes 17:10:30 steve-_-: Yeah, well it worked with Libre 4.4.5, but I wanted to test the new Libre 5 17:10:35 And that's when I noticed 17:10:54 I am testing mail merge because my wife wants to get into a job where they do that, and I wanted to show her how 17:11:25 sure. in that case add the keyword "regression" 17:11:49 hehe, I guess that's probably the story how many of us here in this channel ended up helping out with QA (: 17:14:05 :-) 17:15:01 Alright. Libra 5 installed inside my Windows 7 VM. I'm gonna check real quick if it hangs on the same step, too 17:25:25 Surprise surprise. It doesn't crash or hang on Windows 7. That said, it also doesn't show the preview that is supposed to show in the right side of that panel. 17:25:50 so this would be a second bug separate bug. and the first one would be OSX only 17:25:59 if you have time, please do file both 17:26:03 Not only that after I go to step 6 with the next button, and the click on back, it goes back to step 4 and step 5 is greyed out 17:26:07 Totally weird 17:26:14 (search for dupes first if you have even more time) 17:26:39 Well, I wonder how many bugs are involved here. 17:26:50 I can observe three distinct failures at this point: 17:27:00 OSX: Step 5 hangs Libre completely 17:27:18 Windows: Step 5 does not show preview in right panel 17:27:45 Windows: Stepping back from Step 6 moves to Step 4 and grays out Step 5 17:28:03 any mail merge expert here present? 17:28:58 I would think, and I'm not a Libre developer (I am a programmer though) that the preview not showing in Windows and OS X hanging on the same step are somewhat related 17:29:13 But the Windows version seems to somehow catch that more gracefully 17:29:33 hm maybe then one bug and just add all findings. can still be split later as a dev might elaborate with more info 17:30:33 I'm also thinking that because something bad happened on step 5, that the Windows version disables that panel and the wizard automatically steps back to #4 over #5 17:30:54 So, yeah, I feel this is all related somehow to the same root problem 17:31:31 Yeah, so I'm at work right now and will take my lunch break. But I will most definitely file a bug report 17:31:45 You goes want me to report back here with a link and bug#? 17:32:07 djbello: that would be great 17:32:14 Sure, sure. NP 17:32:17 djbello: thanks a lot. hope this can be tackled. you can do so, the thing is, we have over 300 unconfirmed bugs atm. so it will cue up there. but feel free to post a link 17:32:28 maybe someone can instant confirm :) 17:32:36 djbello: and to be honest mail merges are kind of an enterprise thing... 17:32:43 so if there is an issue...well, we'll see what gets done 17:32:57 djbello: if this is being used at work I always recommend considering getting L3 support 17:33:04 So, we are using LibreOffice and my company 17:33:14 the alternative option is to wait until a volunteer chooses to fix the issue...which can take time 17:33:30 But I have a feeling that it's not being used in many enterprises. i could be wrong though 17:33:45 djbello: I mean the feature itself (mail merge) is an enterprise feature 17:33:48 I know that Europe has switched many Gov. entities over to Open-Source products 17:33:54 not many home users use that feature - so not a lot of attention is given to it 17:34:19 by volunteers that is - plenty of companies and government entities have L3 support 17:34:21 Hm, yeah. 17:34:25 and then they can dictate what gets fixed 17:34:37 We can't assume though that Libre is mainly used at home 17:34:41 Right? 17:34:43 djbello: yes we can 17:34:47 lol I've been on the project for years 17:35:00 and if it's being used to make money....we hope that those profiting off of our volunteers will get support 17:35:04 and support the community in return 17:35:17 Which is where I'm at :-) 17:35:30 We don't even use that feature here at my work 17:35:30 go ahead and report the issue and we'll go from there 17:35:32 well this is a delicate question. djbello is of course right LO is seeing more "official" usage on state / government side 17:35:34 But I figured, I 17:35:40 I'll bring it up 17:35:44 steve-_-: indeed - and many of them have paid support contracts ;) 17:35:47 or a paid developer on staff 17:36:06 yes, which is why I'm optimistic things will further stabilize. 17:36:10 djbello: if it's a regression then there's more that we can do to track down the issue :) 17:36:12 I am pretty much the only Open-Source advocate here 17:36:17 which improves chances of getting it fixed 17:36:24 Helps though that I'm their IT manager (heheh) 17:36:33 lol I'm the only one at my office as well 17:37:21 :-) 17:37:33 Ok. I'm gonna has some food and then file the bug report after lunch 17:37:38 enjoy 17:37:42 Gonna leave this chat window open 17:39:59 steve-_-: always tricky with enterprise users...like we don't want to scare them away but we don't want them thinking we're their personal free support staff :) 17:40:07 I haven't figured out the balance yet 17:40:24 it's too bad that the main message of open source for enterprise has been "free" instead of "cheaper" 17:41:19 yup. def agree this needs to be transported. too many companies give up saying this or that not working instead of understanding: invest into this and we all benefit 17:42:08 So my two cents on that is: for a small company that needs to watch how it's spending money, having free software available is extremely helpful. Now if I wasn't as savvy as I am in order to support my users here, I'd probably pay for support. No question. 17:42:31 djbello: sure - again though, we need to be sure that our small team isn't treated like a company private support team ;) 17:42:34 it wasn't aimed at you btw 17:42:36 just a general comment 17:42:49 and "free" is not how LibreOffice (or any other open source project) likes to be thought of 17:42:51 Sure, sure. Yeah, I get it. 17:43:16 djbello: one thing I wish would happen is for small companies to form like coalitions 17:43:23 and then pool their limited resources towards bugs they want fixed 17:43:26 I myself am hosting an Open-Source project and do pretty much all of it in my spare time. Quite taxing. 17:43:47 djbello: indeed - I do it between real work too :-b and am a director of the proejct 17:44:22 there are a few larger companie that have reported a lot of bugs and try to act like we are their personal support staff...it's quite frustrating 17:44:30 the argument is always "budget constraings" 17:44:33 contraints* 17:44:57 Hm, yeah, idk. For bigger companies to say that is quite odd. 17:44:58 djbello: but I appreciate that you came into the chat and are trying to report a good bug report :) 17:45:11 Seems legit 17:45:18 :-) Thanks 17:45:55 Yeah, I filed a few bug reports in my IT life. Mainly on the NetBeans Bug report center 17:46:59 NetBeans/Java is sort of a passion of mine 17:47:02 djbello: if it's a regression maybe you can bibisect it :) that gets us a small range of commits that might have caused the issue and then we can poke the developers to see where to go from there 17:47:42 bibisect? 17:47:49 (sorry, not familiar with that term) 17:48:02 just a tool that narrows down where the problem came from 17:48:12 oh you're on OSX...dammit 17:48:21 well let's just first get it confirmed, then go from there 17:50:09 ok 17:51:32 jmadero: one to confirm for you? seems linux only so far? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=93610 17:53:02 fantastic example of 10 comments needed to get a step by step repro description :D 17:53:16 and then getting that from stuart... 17:55:29 does anybody know if LO 5 is coming to MAS or when that will be? thought MAS was the fresh aka vanilla channel? 18:27:49 steve-_-: hiya 18:28:01 colonelqubit: how's life? you did move did you? 18:28:18 steve-_-: yep, still super hot here in Texas 18:28:29 one sec, brb 18:28:43 unconfirmed bac kto 479? whaa… 18:28:58 just confirmed / closed a few. 18:30:00 steve-_-: yep, #s have been hopping 18:30:10 haven't had much time to jump into them 18:30:34 so many users keep finding many bugs in general or what's the trend? 18:30:41 it's a mix 18:31:04 waves of bug triagers -- sometimes people have more time to dedicate to it 18:31:22 also regression count is pretty high with close to 600. is this something dev department wants to address or where are they putting their focus? 18:31:43 steve-_-: regression #s seemed to be stabilizing a bit, but the counts do seem to increase 18:32:19 somewhat SNAFU. 18:32:31 (: 18:42:38 I think regressions are higher because we're tagging better 18:42:43 it's hard to tell though 18:43:08 and Michael tracks regressions closely and gives #'s to ESC 18:43:08 jmadero: agreed. def the case 18:44:43 not much more we can do to be honest 18:45:20 shit the new thunderbird is really freaking buggy 18:45:37 with 1 dev left this will be interesting where thunderbird is going 18:45:54 did I mention to y'all that I had lunch with Thunderbird guy at OSCON? 18:46:07 the one remaining? 18:46:12 hope it lives on 18:46:17 * steve-_- dinner time here 18:46:18 quite possibly...I think :P 18:46:22 cu all 18:46:23 (: 18:46:25 * colonelqubit waves 18:47:14 jmadero: I'm looking forward to hearing what you and Ilan cook up re: LibreOffice + lawyering 18:47:33 I think ball is in his court now..but I forget where that left off to be honest 18:47:38 I know he was busy down here with TXLF, but hopefully he'll have some free time now. 18:47:51 jmadero: September going to be busy for you? 18:48:01 yeah - it's hiring season at the DA 18:48:07 I start in felony narcotics next Thursday 18:48:36 just tell them that we all think you're dope 18:48:55 lol probably would make their decision easier 18:48:58 "leave....now" 18:49:36 how do I pull a specific commit 18:49:39 into master build 18:49:54 just want to apply it on top of your existing branch? 18:50:08 yeah 18:50:13 git cherry-pick 18:50:16 thanks 18:50:25 jammed 7 steve-_-: Looks like the behavior with the hang on OS X could be a regression of this bug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65743 18:50:26 bug 65743: LibreOffice-Writer critical/high VERIFIED FIXED MAILMERGE - hang in step 5 of mailmerge wizard "adjust layout" 18:50:27 YMMV, of course... 18:51:02 djbello: a regression of a bug? 18:51:11 oh, mailmerge... 18:51:16 Possibly 18:51:16 you mean it's regressed back to that state, or a side effect of that bugs fix? 18:51:46 Well, no, it seems this bug was verified and fixed according to the status 18:52:03 I'm just saying, I was going to file the bug report and this came up as a possible dup 18:52:07 colonelqubit: fatal: bad object fa1807ad5457d10f8fa073c209a27547e8922c8c 18:52:08 no match found - might try http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=fa1807ad5457d10f8fa073c209a27547e8922c8c in a couple of minutes 18:52:21 ah - I'd say report a new one still 18:52:23 and the described behavior looks indeed to be what I am experiencing with LO5 18:52:27 maybe put that other one in "see also 18:52:34 since that one was closed as FIXED - hold on 18:53:02 yeah it was confirmed as fixed also 18:53:06 I know 18:53:07 even if it's same symptoms could be different code 18:53:21 I'm not sure that Caolan is still around...I forget...maybe cc him on it :) 18:53:24