19:35:05 <colonelqubit> #startmeeting 19:35:05 <IZBot> Meeting started Wed Jun 17 19:35:05 2015 UTC. The chair is colonelqubit. Plugin info at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:35:05 <IZBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:35:37 <colonelqubit> UNCONFIRMED: 345 19:36:02 <colonelqubit> Android: Still have one UNCONFIRMED that needs testing on x86-64 19:36:40 <colonelqubit> beluga_: you still awake? 19:37:28 <beluga_> colonelqubit: yes I had to eat some food I prepared a couple of days ago so I can't go to sleep so soon 19:37:33 * colonelqubit nods 19:38:02 <colonelqubit> arnaud_versini: you here? (and want to tell us about your Android testing?) 19:38:56 <colonelqubit> beluga_: what percentage of our QA Team do you think is in Europe? 19:39:10 <beluga_> a huge percentage 19:39:45 <kompi_> in America LibreOffice not love =) 19:39:55 <beluga_> even bigger, if we count China and India as Europe 19:40:01 <beluga_> Eurasia 19:40:19 <colonelqubit> well, we could definitely consider moving the meeting time earlier 19:40:35 <beluga_> yes, DST messes things up even more 19:40:44 <kompi_> Eurasia it's Russia. China and India is only Asia 19:40:46 <colonelqubit> kompi_: yes, America is pretty small... 19:40:55 <colonelqubit> (well, large as a country; small as a userbase) 19:41:29 * colonelqubit ponders about how China and India are *only* Asia 19:42:06 <colonelqubit> What's the population of China + India? 2.5 billion? 19:42:10 <beluga_> but even Matthew might be able to attend, if we started a bit earlier 19:42:17 <colonelqubit> beluga_: that would be great 19:42:18 <kompi_> colonelqubit: china and india located only in Asia 19:42:47 <beluga_> kompi_: it seems you are wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia 19:43:06 <colonelqubit> kompi_: oh yes, I was just referencing their huge populations ;-) 19:43:20 <kompi_> Russia is located in Europe and Asia 19:43:48 <IZBot> News from tdfnew: [Bug 92140] Calc Appears To Do Row & Column Inserts The Hard Way <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92140> 19:44:17 <kompi_> beluga_: continent 19:44:17 <beluga_> anywhile, something worth mentioning: bubli would like a tinderbox that would produce linux builds with --enable-kde4 19:44:35 <beluga_> da clophmeister said that reawakening lhm tinderbox might be enough 19:44:35 <colonelqubit> beluga_: what's our population of KDE bugs right now? 19:44:49 <beluga_> the KDE bug population is growing at an alarming rate 19:45:02 <beluga_> we need the Club of Rome of KDE bugs soon 19:45:23 <beluga_> no, but bubli is testing a lot with master builds.. so it's very hard to confirm 19:45:40 <beluga_> if QA doesn't normally do their own builds, and even more rarely test in KDE 19:46:05 <beluga_> I left a build running today at work.. tomorrow I will see, if it was successful and I will test bubli's reports 19:46:48 <beluga_> I think I'll take the laptop home tomorrow because we won't return to office before August.. I have all these VMs in it 19:46:51 <colonelqubit> beluga_: I think we're definitely supportive of people running their own builds, it's just that LibreOffice is a bit of a monster if you don't have a modern machine 19:46:51 <kompi_> use KDE is bad idea 19:47:08 <beluga_> kompi_: no :D 19:47:12 <kompi_> yep! 19:47:17 <beluga_> ok you win 19:47:20 * colonelqubit grabs some popcorn 19:47:20 <kompi_> lol 19:47:28 <beluga_> "The DE Wars" 19:47:32 <kompi_> nonono david blain 19:47:36 <colonelqubit> anyone remember CDE? 19:47:43 <kompi_> i'm not 19:48:01 <kompi_> its very old 19:48:04 <beluga_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment 19:48:42 <beluga_> kompi_: we have to test libreoffice-kde integration 19:49:05 <kompi_> And what's wrong with him? 19:49:22 <beluga_> sometimes he gets sick 19:49:24 <colonelqubit> beluga_: how's our stock of KDE users/testers? 19:49:31 <beluga_> and we have to heal him 19:49:46 <kompi_> beluga_: oncology? 19:49:46 * colonelqubit wonders if we're talking about the walrus 19:49:48 <beluga_> there are KDE users among the team, but they are scattered 19:50:10 <beluga_> bubli might create a KDE meta bug 19:50:42 <beluga_> some random persons: Andreas Mantke uses KDE, but isn't in the QA team :) 19:52:02 <colonelqubit> I'm fine switching around to test under KDE if it's deemed important, but if we have people using it already, it would make the most sense to try to shuttle things to them 19:52:49 <colonelqubit> beluga_: I can imagine that cloph is hesitant to start spinning-up a lot of different tb's for different configurations 19:53:50 <beluga_> yes, but if the Munich TB can be used, then it could be low-hanging fruit 19:54:29 * colonelqubit nods 19:54:38 <beluga_> I suspect my build went fine and I can do builds in the future in the Kubuntu VM, when needed 19:54:39 <colonelqubit> Munich has standardized on KDE? 19:54:50 * colonelqubit doesn't know a ton about their standardized setup 19:55:01 <beluga_> they used Kubuntu, if I recall correctly 19:55:15 <beluga_> LiMux version 4 is the current release and is based on Kubuntu 19:55:50 * colonelqubit is curious how much is built upon debian (often via ubuntu) 19:56:25 <colonelqubit> But I digress.. 19:56:25 <beluga_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux 19:56:38 <colonelqubit> Let's talk about some Action Items 19:56:38 <beluga_> I've been hanging out in the design channel 19:56:46 <colonelqubit> #topic Action Items 19:57:10 <colonelqubit> beluga_: with jphilipz and other questionable folks? ;-) 19:57:39 <beluga_> colonelqubit: bubli frequents it 19:58:03 <beluga_> and philjung 19:58:11 <beluga_> I throw puzzling enhancement requests at them 19:58:14 <colonelqubit> heh 20:00:25 <kompi_> linuxmint 17.2 RC released with MATE and Cinnamon.... 20:00:54 * kompi_ downloaded and will try in action 20:01:55 <colonelqubit> I don't see steve here -- I know we've had an ACTION item for "baseline image media support tests for OSX" for a while. Let's see if we can get those done 20:02:51 <beluga_> colonelqubit: maybe we need to give him a deadline :) 20:02:57 <colonelqubit> As for restricting access to priority fields, I think that joel is mostly done with populating the contributors group, so we should be able to turn-on that restriction 20:03:09 <beluga_> colonelqubit: yes we populated the group on Sunday 20:03:25 <colonelqubit> beluga_: yeah, I know that he's been busy, and I don't want to put deadlines on things like that 20:03:38 <colonelqubit> If I can find time to do some mac testing, I wil 20:03:43 <colonelqubit> *will 20:03:46 <beluga_> we did skip the devs that had not logged on since Sept 2014.. but if they return, they can contact us 20:03:52 <jphilipz> colonelqubit: yes we are questionable people :D 20:04:15 <colonelqubit> jphilipz: well apparently beluga_ thinks that you are, as he keeps on posing questions to you! 20:04:46 <beluga_> jphilipz: what is the best way to treat mosquito bites? 20:05:22 <jphilipz> beluga_: scratch them 20:05:45 <beluga_> answers guaranteed or your money back 20:05:55 <jphilipz> colonelqubit: yep the good thing is beluga_ is bringing them to my attention ;D 20:06:23 <beluga_> FYI: 21 billion mosquitos will hit Finland on Friday 20:06:36 <beluga_> they are mobilizing the troops 20:06:49 <colonelqubit> is "mosquito" a code word for "russian" ? 20:07:07 <beluga_> wait that was 21 000 billion sorry 20:07:19 <jphilipz> yes mosquitos have been biting me and the family for about a week or 2 now 20:07:24 <kompi_> colonelqubit: wow wow , easy 20:07:44 <kompi_> than bad Russian? 20:09:12 <colonelqubit> AFAIK, the Big Lebowski never met a White Russian he didn't like (and then drink) 20:09:25 <kompi_> in the case of deterioration of relations, we just had a couple of very large rockets with very poor filling, rather than climb yourself 20:10:36 <kompi_> and silence.... 20:11:44 * kompi_ sleep 20:11:46 <colonelqubit> speaking of deterioration of relations, how goes our testing with Windows 10? 20:12:27 <beluga_> it goes as smoothly as the Finnish economy 20:12:44 <beluga_> ie. it is parked 20:12:49 <colonelqubit> ah, well 20:13:57 <IZBot> News from tdfnew: [Bug 92141] Range Settings Issues <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92141> 20:14:00 <colonelqubit> We obviously can (and should) test win 64bit builds on win8, etc.., but testing 64bit on win10 seems like the most efficient for us 20:14:23 <colonelqubit> What else in Action Item land... ah yes: I sent some materials to ahoneybun 20:14:47 * ahoneybun wakes up 20:14:49 <colonelqubit> REMINDER: If anyone needs stickers or pamphlets or other items, please let me know and I'll send them along 20:15:12 * colonelqubit will try to dig up some more pamphlets once his move is complete 20:16:26 <colonelqubit> ahoneybun: anything new from your side? 20:16:46 <colonelqubit> You were at SELF, right? -- How did that go? 20:17:00 <ahoneybun> good 20:17:08 <ahoneybun> lots of stickers are gone 20:17:28 <ahoneybun> Ubuntu did not want me to put the pamphlets there 20:17:37 <ahoneybun> on their table anyway 20:17:46 <colonelqubit> lol 20:17:50 <colonelqubit> the DFD ones? 20:18:02 <ahoneybun> thats the only ones I have 20:18:07 <ahoneybun> yep 20:18:08 <beluga_> should have phoned Björn :P 20:19:15 <colonelqubit> I thought that Ubuntu was pretty supportive of DFD. Perhaps just need to coordinate better with them next year 20:19:33 <colonelqubit> could definitely use some $$ to help out with the US campaign for 2016, anyhow 20:20:54 <beluga_> LibreOffice for president! 20:21:32 <ahoneybun> colonelqubit: talk with bryan for FOSSETCON as I'll be there 20:21:39 * colonelqubit totally didn't mean that, but kudos for seeing the opportunity and taking it ;-) 20:21:58 <colonelqubit> ahoneybun: Sure, I actually was chatting with him a week or two ago 20:22:18 <colonelqubit> That's mostly it from the Action Items pile 20:22:23 <colonelqubit> #topic Other Topics 20:22:35 <colonelqubit> What else do people have? 20:22:37 <ahoneybun> I saw him at SELF and they have the dates and location for this years event 20:23:51 <colonelqubit> ahoneybun: oh, cool. Made public yet? 20:23:59 <beluga_> I'd like to see a developer bug triage festival :D 20:24:17 <beluga_> some weekend when the devs would attack all our old unconfirmeds.. 20:25:42 <beluga_> Bugzilla "Duke Nukem Forever" 5.0 is somehow still not released: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1170566 20:26:26 * colonelqubit laughs 20:26:29 <colonelqubit> one of these days... 20:28:44 <colonelqubit> Okay, any other topics we should discuss? 20:29:27 <colonelqubit> This weekend we'll have the BugHunting Session for 5.0 RC1: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.0.0_RC1 20:30:54 <colonelqubit> I'll email out once we have builds available for testing. 20:31:35 <colonelqubit> Anything else? 20:32:14 <ahoneybun> colonelqubit: sorry yes it is 20:32:22 * colonelqubit nods 20:32:38 <ahoneybun> colonelqubit: FOSSETCON is open 20:33:06 <ahoneybun> http://fossetcon.org/ 20:33:29 <colonelqubit> #topic Next Meeting 20:34:17 <colonelqubit> Given that 20:34:17 <colonelqubit> 1) It sounds like a number of people would like an earlier meeting time 20:34:17 <colonelqubit> 2) I'm moving during July 1st (2 weeks from now) 20:34:59 <colonelqubit> Let's plan to meet a bit earlier on that Wednesday. I'll email out with time and details 20:35:58 <colonelqubit> #topic The End 20:36:36 <colonelqubit> Thanks everyone for showing up! We'll talk again in 2 weeks, and until then, I'll see you here on IRC! 20:36:41 <colonelqubit> #endmeeting