======================= #libreoffice-qa Meeting ======================= Meeting started by jmadero at 19:39:40 UTC. The full logs are available at http://pumbaa.documentfoundation.org/meetbot/libreoffice-qa/2012/libreoffice-qa.2012-12-05-19.39.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Completed Action Items [Thanks To] (jmadero, 19:40:26) * BSA: Invitation to participate with triaging after a user submits a bug [Rob] (jmadero, 19:41:00) * Wiki: Basic instructions for triaging with links to more involved instructions [Joel & Petr] (jmadero, 19:41:27) * FDO: Rename/Merge 3.7 Master with 4.0 Master [Joel] (jmadero, 19:41:44) * FDO: Old/Inactive Bugs (jmadero, 19:42:27) * Bugs that have gone more than 6 months without any activity are starting to build up in FDO, options discussed to figure out how to deal with these (jmadero, 19:43:32) * concern that these bugs are no longer actually bugs with current releases but that the bugs were fixed independent of the bug report and therefore never marked as RESOLVED -> FIXED (jmadero, 19:43:57) * IDEA: New White Board Status ("Inactive") (jmadero, 19:44:11) * IDEA: Lower Priority Automatically After X Time (jmadero, 19:44:32) * AGREED: Lowering bug priority automatically is a bad idea (jmadero, 19:44:46) * IDEA: Using Enhancement Status More (jmadero, 19:45:20) * concern that bugs will be marked as enhancements incorrectly, enhancements status already used relatively frequent (jmadero, 19:45:48) * Any option will require communcation with bug submitter to request further testing on new stable releases (jmadero, 19:47:03) * AGREED: Not an urgent matter, any solution should be well thought out before implementation (jmadero, 19:47:23) * FDO: Identifying Most/Least Active Bugs (jmadero, 19:48:03) * identifying the most and least active bugs internally may help organization of bugs quite a bit (jmadero, 19:48:17) * IDEA: try to use FDO data along with Calc to implement something similar to Canonical's "bug heat" (jmadero, 19:48:51) * ACTION: Joel will try to make a prototype for "bug heat" from FDO data (jmadero, 19:49:43) * Bugzilla: Open ID Alternatives (jmadero, 19:50:12) * OpenID is not an option because of technical reasons (jmadero, 19:50:26) * ACTION: Bjoern will look into alternatives for OpenID, will discuss with Tolef (jmadero, 19:50:53) * goal to have one authenticator is unlikely to occur (jmadero, 19:51:02) * Florian showed support for Google Login, other options include Facebook & Twitter (jmadero, 19:51:25) * BSA: Localization (jmadero, 19:51:50) * Rob discussed this during hackfest, said sounds good and should be doable (jmadero, 19:52:07) * ACTION: Joel will contact Rob about BSA Localization to get an update (jmadero, 19:52:17) * Marketing: Twitter Feed (jmadero, 19:52:43) * twitter feed to announce bug fixed in order to promote more people following LibO and possibly getting involved with QA/Development (jmadero, 19:53:07) * twitter has a max per hour but this shouldn't be an issue for us (jmadero, 19:53:21) * ACTION: Bjoern will continue looking into creating twitter feed for bug fixes, will ping Florian about this (jmadero, 19:53:44) * Goals (jmadero, 19:53:53) * punt until after release of version 4 (jmadero, 19:54:00) * Hard Hacks (jmadero, 19:54:06) * Everyone will keep an eye out for hard hacks (jmadero, 19:54:14) * acknowledgment that this will slow down until after release of version 4 (jmadero, 19:54:26) * AGREED: Hard Hacks wiki is relatively well known so we should keep it up to date and not let it go stagnant (jmadero, 19:54:45) * ACTION: Joel will add bug 57619 to hard hack wiki (jmadero, 19:54:57) * meetbot (jmadero, 19:55:32) * meetbot is set up and Bjoern/Joel played around with it, weren't quite comfortable enough to use it yet (jmadero, 19:55:52) * not very functional for making agendas (jmadero, 19:55:57) * Minutes uploaded to TDF server, not Wiki but Joel will create links on Wiki (jmadero, 19:56:14) * AGREED: attempt to use meetbot for next meeting (jmadero, 19:56:31) * Funding Wish List (jmadero, 19:56:41) * LINK: http://www.wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Funding_Priorities (jmadero, 19:57:41) * Going to be a short list from QA because the money/hardware is available for most of our needs, really need volunteers more than funding (jmadero, 19:58:14) * QA Travel Expenses: Not really needed because money isn't separated, travel expenses reimbursed from general fund (jmadero, 19:58:53) * FDO Improvements: Possibly pay someone to implement some of the changes that are on wiki page (jmadero, 19:59:24) * LINK: http://www.wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_Improve_Bugzilla (jmadero, 19:59:40) * ACTION: Bjoern will look through bugzilla improvement list to prioritize and figure out if we could use some funding for these items (jmadero, 20:00:31) * Prizes/Thank You's possible for most active QA members per quarter or some other period of time (jmadero, 20:01:16) * AGREED: prizes possible but a concrete plan needs to be created before we can request funding (jmadero, 20:01:35) * Leadership Structure/"Board of Quality Assurance (jmadero, 20:02:05) * Is a leadership team needed with QA (jmadero, 20:02:23) * AGREED: first thing is to get the QA bi-weekly conference call correct and to get more people involved (jmadero, 20:02:38) * ACTION: Joel will announce next meeting over user list to test if this can work (jmadero, 20:02:55) * Triage Contest (jmadero, 20:03:12) * AGREED: This is a good idea (jmadero, 20:03:17) * date is a concern, right after final release of 4 might be good, avoids holidays plus more user interest right after major release (jmadero, 20:03:39) * ACTION: Bjoern will talk to TDF Board about funding triage contest (jmadero, 20:03:47) * Next meeting we will discuss more details (jmadero, 20:03:59) * ACTION: Bjoern and Joel should talk to Cor Nouws & Italo Vignoli about their experience with running a contest (jmadero, 20:04:28) * LINK: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0-1 (jmadero, 20:05:02) Meeting ended at 20:05:10 UTC. 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