19:39:40 #startmeeting 19:39:40 Meeting started Wed Dec 5 19:39:40 2012 UTC. The chair is jmadero. Plugin info at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:39:40 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:40:26 #Topic Completed Action Items [Thanks To] 19:41:00 #info BSA: Invitation to participate with triaging after a user submits a bug [Rob] 19:41:27 #info Wiki: Basic instructions for triaging with links to more involved instructions [Joel & Petr] 19:41:44 #info FDO: Rename/Merge 3.7 Master with 4.0 Master [Joel] 19:42:27 #Topic FDO: Old/Inactive Bugs 19:43:32 #info Bugs that have gone more than 6 months without any activity are starting to build up in FDO, options discussed to figure out how to deal with these 19:43:57 #info concern that these bugs are no longer actually bugs with current releases but that the bugs were fixed independent of the bug report and therefore never marked as RESOLVED -> FIXED 19:44:11 #idea New White Board Status ("Inactive") 19:44:32 #idea Lower Priority Automatically After X Time 19:44:46 #agreed Lowering bug priority automatically is a bad idea 19:45:20 #idea Using Enhancement Status More 19:45:48 #info concern that bugs will be marked as enhancements incorrectly, enhancements status already used relatively frequent 19:47:03 #info Any option will require communcation with bug submitter to request further testing on new stable releases 19:47:23 #agreed Not an urgent matter, any solution should be well thought out before implementation 19:48:03 #topic FDO: Identifying Most/Least Active Bugs 19:48:17 #info identifying the most and least active bugs internally may help organization of bugs quite a bit 19:48:51 #idea try to use FDO data along with Calc to implement something similar to Canonical's "bug heat" 19:49:43 #action Joel will try to make a prototype for "bug heat" from FDO data 19:50:12 #topic Bugzilla: Open ID Alternatives 19:50:26 #info OpenID is not an option because of technical reasons 19:50:53 #action Bjoern will look into alternatives for OpenID, will discuss with Tolef 19:51:02 #info goal to have one authenticator is unlikely to occur 19:51:25 #info Florian showed support for Google Login, other options include Facebook & Twitter 19:51:50 #topic BSA: Localization 19:52:07 #info Rob discussed this during hackfest, said sounds good and should be doable 19:52:17 #action Joel will contact Rob about BSA Localization to get an update 19:52:43 #topic Marketing: Twitter Feed 19:53:07 #info twitter feed to announce bug fixed in order to promote more people following LibO and possibly getting involved with QA/Development 19:53:21 #info twitter has a max per hour but this shouldn't be an issue for us 19:53:44 #action Bjoern will continue looking into creating twitter feed for bug fixes, will ping Florian about this 19:53:53 #topic Goals 19:54:00 #info punt until after release of version 4 19:54:06 #topic Hard Hacks 19:54:14 #info Everyone will keep an eye out for hard hacks 19:54:26 #info acknowledgment that this will slow down until after release of version 4 19:54:45 #agreed Hard Hacks wiki is relatively well known so we should keep it up to date and not let it go stagnant 19:54:57 #action Joel will add bug 57619 to hard hack wiki 19:55:26 #MeetBot 19:55:32 #topic meetbot 19:55:52 #info meetbot is set up and Bjoern/Joel played around with it, weren't quite comfortable enough to use it yet 19:55:57 #info not very functional for making agendas 19:56:14 #info Minutes uploaded to TDF server, not Wiki but Joel will create links on Wiki 19:56:31 #agreed attempt to use meetbot for next meeting 19:56:41 #topic Funding Wish List 19:57:05 #Marc from marketing has been requesting funding wish list items from every section 19:57:41 #link http://www.wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Funding_Priorities 19:58:14 #info Going to be a short list from QA because the money/hardware is available for most of our needs, really need volunteers more than funding 19:58:53 #info QA Travel Expenses: Not really needed because money isn't separated, travel expenses reimbursed from general fund 19:59:24 #info FDO Improvements: Possibly pay someone to implement some of the changes that are on wiki page 19:59:40 #link http://www.wiki.documentfoundation.org/How_to_Improve_Bugzilla 20:00:31 #action Bjoern will look through bugzilla improvement list to prioritize and figure out if we could use some funding for these items 20:01:16 #info Prizes/Thank You's possible for most active QA members per quarter or some other period of time 20:01:35 #agreed prizes possible but a concrete plan needs to be created before we can request funding 20:02:05 #topic Leadership Structure/"Board of Quality Assurance 20:02:23 #info Is a leadership team needed with QA 20:02:38 #agreed first thing is to get the QA bi-weekly conference call correct and to get more people involved 20:02:55 #action Joel will announce next meeting over user list to test if this can work 20:03:12 #topic Triage Contest 20:03:17 #agreed This is a good idea 20:03:39 #info date is a concern, right after final release of 4 might be good, avoids holidays plus more user interest right after major release 20:03:47 #action Bjoern will talk to TDF Board about funding triage contest 20:03:59 #info Next meeting we will discuss more details 20:04:28 #action Bjoern and Joel should talk to Cor Nouws & Italo Vignoli about their experience with running a contest 20:05:02 #link http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0-1 20:05:10 #endmeeting