19:04:06 <x1sc0> #startmeeting
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19:04:24 <x1sc0> hello KingInTheNorth, izabela
19:04:55 <x1sc0> #topics rollcall
19:05:13 <x1sc0> so, who is here for the C++ meeting ?
19:05:22 <erAck> izabela KingInTheNorth : do we expect other people from AL?
19:05:37 <izabela> we have a new person from Tirana
19:05:45 <erAck> great
19:06:03 <x1sc0> KingInTheNorth, you are from Tirana as well ?
19:06:09 <KingInTheNorth> I am
19:06:13 <x1sc0> so we have 3 people from Tirana ?
19:06:24 <izabela> 2, i think
19:06:40 <erAck> ah it's just you today
19:08:03 <x1sc0> so, I'm checking the notes from last lecture
19:08:12 <x1sc0> #link https://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/meetbot/libreoffice-dev/2019/libreoffice-dev.2019-01-10-19.08.html
19:08:29 <x1sc0> #topic intro & updates
19:08:51 * Sweetshark falls through the door after just arriving from work.
19:09:18 <x1sc0> izabela, is there any progress on the easyhacks ?
19:10:04 <izabela> not really, the virtual machine are not set up yet..
19:10:38 <Sweetshark> *grumble*
19:11:07 <Sweetshark> we will solve that on the ground in Brussels then latest.
19:11:20 <x1sc0> I think there is going to be something at the hackfest ?
19:11:46 <erAck> has to..
19:12:06 <erAck> izabela: which easyhack did you pick anyways?
19:12:18 <x1sc0> tdf#119996
19:12:20 <IZBot> LibreOffice-UI enhancement/low NEW Remove support for GNOME Shell application menu https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119996
19:12:34 <erAck> ookkk
19:13:44 <izabela> i am the only person coming at the hackfest from the students in Tirana learning c++
19:14:57 <erAck> no other volunteering or not possible?
19:15:20 <x1sc0> so we should figure out something for the hackfest
19:15:30 <izabela> exams..
19:15:38 <Sweetshark> FWIW, during some banter on twitter, I came across another interesting task: make Writer show the word count up to the cursor position (in addition or instead of the the totals). https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1084937667161280512
19:15:42 <x1sc0> a vm or something where you can hack on
19:16:07 <Sweetshark> depending on progress at the hackfest, we might be able to look into that.
19:17:16 <x1sc0> Sweetshark, are you coming too ?
19:18:14 <erAck> Sweetshark is busy relaxing ;)
19:18:49 <Sweetshark> x1sc0: hackfest brussels? Yeah, a bit of the time. I will arrive wednesday evening.
19:19:29 <erAck> x1sc0: when will you arrive?
19:19:44 <erAck> izabela: and you?
19:19:46 <x1sc0> Sweetshark, so, in the previous hackfest, how did you do it? you had a spare computer ?
19:19:51 * x1sc0 checks
19:19:56 <izabela> if vms are ready for the hackfest, will there be a way to mentor remotely?
19:20:11 <izabela> i know there is a student very interested
19:20:37 <erAck> izabela: maybe we could run a screencast in Jitsi
19:20:57 <x1sc0> tuesday evening
19:21:07 <izabela> yes, i am coming Wednesday at 10 am
19:21:23 <erAck> x1sc0: me too Tue eve
19:21:30 <izabela> when does the hackfest start?
19:21:34 <x1sc0> erAck, bedford ?
19:21:43 <erAck> izabela: I think at 10
19:21:43 <x1sc0> izabela, around 10-10.30
19:21:49 <erAck> x1sc0: yup
19:22:22 <Sweetshark> izabela: in general yes, I guess. But networks at FOSDEM are flaky at times. and jitsi dont work too well from Tirana IIRC. So if its IRC mostly that should work better
19:22:58 <izabela> is there a jisti call this time?
19:23:08 <erAck> Sweetshark: hackfest is coworks though, network should be better
19:23:24 <Sweetshark> .oO( OTOH jitsi folks are at FOSDEM, we might ask them about the troubles )
19:23:28 <x1sc0> izabela, I joined but noone was there
19:23:32 <Sweetshark> erAck: ah, true.
19:23:38 * erAck didn't join Jitsi yet
19:24:18 <cloph> "nor really, the virtual machine are not set up" → the vm is up, I need ssh keys to add...
19:24:33 <erAck> yay
19:25:09 <erAck> izabela: did you already generate an ssh key to use?
19:25:57 <x1sc0> so we have differents vms or many people can use the same ?
19:26:39 * Sweetshark just remembers that he wanted to write some LibreOfficeized versions of the code from the old video.
19:26:46 * Sweetshark stick head in sand.
19:26:48 <cloph> (only received keys for Eva and Klevis, account tdf@vm220.documentfoundation.org, create your personal working dir with ./lode/setup --new yourname)
19:26:53 <Sweetshark> will do that on the weekend.
19:27:10 <cloph> at least that's how it works for now/until someone wants dedicated account/have it work differently)
19:27:42 <KingInTheNorth> Is there anything I should know here as a newbie?
19:27:52 <x1sc0> KingInTheNorth, izabela, could you please send the keys to cloph ?
19:27:57 <izabela> i sent the ssh key
19:28:00 <erAck> cloph: would my general tdf key work for that?
19:29:29 <x1sc0> Sweetshark, you mean the pending action in https://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/meetbot/libreoffice-dev/2019/libreoffice-dev.2019-01-10-19.08.html ?
19:29:39 <cloph> if you mean key as used for jenkins slaves: yes.
19:30:23 <izabela> @cloph, it is ok to use the same ssh key i used for me vm  at the hackest in munich?
19:30:43 <Sweetshark> x1sc0: yup
19:30:45 <cloph> (If you mean your personal key, then we don't have in salt)
19:31:12 <cloph> izabela as long as you still have access to the private key, it is fine.
19:31:28 <htietze> question about the lesson today and the last ones a bit too: I wonder how to implement a sort function. Coming from Object Pascal it would be a hastable class and I'd inherit a new class from it and implement the function there. How do I have to imagine that under C++?
19:33:37 <erAck> cloph: no, I meant the same key I use for some other VMs already; or if you have to install it on vm220 first
19:34:20 <cloph> ok, so personal key - and that's not in salt, so I'd need to grab in from one of the other vms first
19:35:05 <erAck> cloph: gimli should have it
19:36:16 <cloph> copied over.
19:36:20 <erAck> thx
19:36:39 <x1sc0> izabela, does it work with the key from munich ?
19:36:43 <cloph> FYI: for now the machine is moderately specced with 16CPU / 16GB ram
19:37:02 <erAck> cloph: just for snooping around and maybe help
19:37:07 <Sweetshark> htietze: sounds like you want http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/unordered_map/unordered_map/
19:37:46 <erAck> cloph: works, thx
19:38:06 <htietze> Sweetshark: maybe the result but i wonder how to enhance existing functions (as they are not classes that a can inherit from).
19:39:08 <KingInTheNorth> `devdocs.io` seems like a better, more up to date documentation website
19:40:27 <erAck> KingInTheNorth: best reference site is https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp
19:41:16 <KingInTheNorth> thanks!
19:41:18 <KingInTheNorth> good to know
19:42:38 <cloph> izabela: key added.
19:43:36 <izabela> thank you
19:44:15 <erAck> haha, funny, devdocs.io for C++ copies cppreference.com
19:44:32 <buovjaga> yeah, was just going to mention :)
19:44:58 <KingInTheNorth> ha
19:45:42 <erAck> izabela KingInTheNorth : did you both watch the lecture and/or read about std::set and std::map ?
19:45:48 <x1sc0> we have a spy from QA
19:46:18 <x1sc0> I'll change the topic, since htietze already asked about it
19:46:20 <KingInTheNorth> I did
19:46:25 <erAck> buovjaga is 25/7 online
19:46:25 <x1sc0> #topic questions & answers on the video
19:48:03 <izabela> yes, the lecture was not difficult but the title was confusing
19:48:58 <erAck> izabela: why confusing?
19:50:11 <erAck> btw, anyone else noticed he's using LibreOffice Impress for his presentation? :-)
19:50:12 <izabela> with the word map i imagine some sort of data structure
19:51:30 <x1sc0> erAck, yep, I noticed it too
19:52:06 <Sweetshark> whoops. notebook crashed hard. anyway: back now.
19:52:13 <erAck> izabela: the actual structure is an implementation detail, but commonly some tree thingy
19:52:34 <erAck> important are the defined interface and behaviour