15:00:46 <x1sc0> #startmeeting 15:00:46 <IZBot> Meeting started Tue May 28 15:00:46 2019 UTC. The chair is x1sc0. Plugin info at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:47 <IZBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:59 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Yohooo 15:01:18 <sophi> Hello! 15:01:27 <x1sc0> hello there 15:01:48 <x1sc0> so let's get started with may's qa meeting 15:02:11 <x1sc0> who is around for the meeting ? 15:02:24 <buovjaga> I'm not very around 15:02:31 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Sophi: o/ 15:03:12 <x1sc0> before we get started, any of you has any topic that you would like to discuss during the meeting ? 15:03:22 <djredaux> Howdy, sorry for being late 15:03:30 <x1sc0> djredaux, hi 15:03:54 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> X1sc0: double message when bot changes bugs 15:04:09 <x1sc0> yep, I've already added that to the agenda 15:04:15 <x1sc0> anything else? 15:04:19 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Cool 15:04:54 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Change Additionak information to Add info from Help-About 15:05:05 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> In bugreport form 15:05:19 <sophi> just a request on my side: send your talk proposals for LibOCon :) 15:05:41 <x1sc0> @Kompilainenn, added 15:06:54 <x1sc0> sophi, indeed, if any of you is giving a talk at LiboConf, please send your proposals before mid June 15:07:25 <x1sc0> sophi, I'll send mine this week 15:07:39 <sophi> x1sc0: thanks! 15:08:08 <x1sc0> ok, let's follow the agenda 15:08:17 <x1sc0> #topic Recurrent tasks 15:08:59 <x1sc0> any BZ contributor you would like to propose to give them more rights ? 15:09:17 <x1sc0> or any wiki page that needs attention ? 15:09:38 <x1sc0> I still have to create the screencast page as we agreed last meeting 15:10:43 <x1sc0> anything at all ? 15:11:00 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> No 15:11:26 <x1sc0> ok, let's keep moving then 15:11:33 <x1sc0> so we're reaching the end of the month 15:11:58 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Yes 15:11:58 <x1sc0> please, do not forget to add the relevant info to https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief 15:12:12 <x1sc0> for the next monthly report 15:12:21 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Noel is a great man 15:12:36 <x1sc0> I know I know 15:12:42 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> :D 15:13:09 <x1sc0> I don't see many new features in 6.3 but it's full of performance improvements and fixes 15:13:22 <x1sc0> many old regressions got fixed in this version 15:13:26 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Gulsah made new in bullet&numbering 15:13:45 <x1sc0> yep 15:14:10 <x1sc0> I think it's gonna be a great version 15:14:16 <djredaux> Gulsah? 15:14:32 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Yes 15:14:39 <x1sc0> Gülşah Köse 15:14:47 <djredaux> OK, a person. got it 15:15:24 <x1sc0> from turkey 15:15:38 <x1sc0> so, let's move to the next topic 15:15:55 <x1sc0> #topic Automated message: annoying ? improvements? ideas? 15:16:14 <x1sc0> so in this month I've been automating some bugzilla actions 15:17:02 <x1sc0> like if a bug is in NEEDINFO and the reporter replies to the bug without moving it to UNCONFIRMED 15:17:16 <x1sc0> it will automatically be moved to UNCONFIRMED 15:17:33 <x1sc0> so we prevent NEEDINFO bugs to go unnoticed 15:17:49 <sophi> great idea 15:18:23 <x1sc0> same for UNCONFIRMED bugs, we tag them with QA:needsComment if no action has been done from the QA team in 14 days after it got reported 15:19:14 <x1sc0> do you have any other action in mind that could be automated ? 15:19:48 <x1sc0> OTOH, do you find this automation annoying? I know kompi said the message when they are moved from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED is 15:19:59 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Needinfo to influcient data? 15:20:21 <bearon> x1sc0: is there an easy to access query for the needsComment bugs? 15:20:22 <x1sc0> @Kompilainenn, oh yes, that has been also automated 15:20:52 <x1sc0> bearon, sure, https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/GetInvolved#Unconfirmed_reports_without_comments 15:21:07 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Bearon: for example on page with retest bugs in the wiki 15:21:25 <x1sc0> I put it in the getinvolved page so newcomers have easy access to it 15:21:33 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Cool 15:21:37 <bearon> thanks! 15:21:43 <djredaux> The wiki pages with links to canned reports include one for needsinfo already 15:21:46 <marcoagpinto> bearon!!!! 15:21:47 <marcoagpinto> >:) 15:21:50 <bearon> hey 15:22:05 <marcoagpinto> did you receive my e-mail? 15:22:06 <marcoagpinto> :) 15:22:21 <bearon> marcoagpinto: yes, but there's a meeting going on 15:22:25 <marcoagpinto> ahhh 15:22:27 <marcoagpinto> sorry 15:22:29 <x1sc0> bearon, it's at 68 right now, it was at 115 when we started 15:22:32 <x1sc0> so it's getting better 15:22:53 <djredaux> for example I use this page for canned reports https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Components/Database/Help 15:24:13 <x1sc0> so @Kompilainenn, so, as far as I know, the problem you have is with the two emails sent when changing the status, right ? 15:26:49 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Yes 15:27:44 <x1sc0> well, as I said, we have the same situation with the commit notification, one email for the target string in the whiteboard and one for the comment 15:28:10 <x1sc0> personally I would prefer to have 2 email and have a comment explaining why the status was changed 15:28:26 <x1sc0> any other opinion ? 15:28:42 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> It would be combine into only one 15:28:59 <x1sc0> that's not possible using the rest api 15:29:22 <x1sc0> the comment is done with a post and the status change with a put 15:29:55 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> But if someone create a bug and subscribe me at once i get only one e-mail with all info about bug 15:30:22 <bearon> because that's not done via the rest api 15:30:37 <x1sc0> yep, I know, but that's done from the website 15:30:54 <bearon> does this only concern the needsComment change? 15:31:03 <x1sc0> in this case, we have a technical limitation 15:31:15 <bearon> in our case 15:31:20 <x1sc0> bearon, no, it only concerns bugs moving from NEEDINFO to UNCONFIRMED automatically 15:31:49 <x1sc0> so it writes this comment: [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed 15:32:50 <bearon> i see 15:33:29 <x1sc0> i know it might be a bit annoying 15:33:41 <x1sc0> but it's not that bad to me, imho 15:34:00 <bearon> i don't see a lot of information in that message, but i'm also not bothered by two e-mails instead of one 15:35:24 <x1sc0> I propose kompi to add a filter to the email client 15:35:44 <bearon> to filter out bugzilla mail ;) 15:35:50 <x1sc0> if this gets him on his nerves 15:36:20 <IZBot> News from tdfnew: [Bug 125558] Cannot import Libreoffice calc to pdf <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125558> 15:36:27 <x1sc0> yep, I'm thinking of adding a filter to all bugzilla mails 15:37:33 <buovjaga> In the future, this might not be a problem. Bugzilla devs are trying out different APIs, such as GraphQL. Maybe a more powerful way to change the reports will be possible 15:38:14 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> I will be happy... after 2030 year-( 15:38:34 <x1sc0> oh, great, so I would propose to leave it like that for the time being and reevaluate once we have the new bugzilla 15:38:59 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Of course 15:39:26 <x1sc0> ok, great, thanks 15:39:30 <x1sc0> next topic 15:39:43 <x1sc0> #topic Change Additional information to Add info from Help-About 15:40:16 <x1sc0> @Kompilainenn, I guess you meant in https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOffice&format=guided, right ? 15:40:17 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> Many bug reporters didn't add this info 15:40:30 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> And we should ask him always 15:41:38 <x1sc0> yep, I agree 15:42:14 <x1sc0> let me quickly create a redmine ticket 15:42:16 <djredaux> So the question is about changing the default new issue form? 15:42:18 <x1sc0> so I don't forget 15:43:03 <djredaux> To include an additional information box with the prompt to include the HELP->ABOUT info? 15:43:10 <x1sc0> djredaux, change the form to make it clearer 15:43:16 <djredaux> If so, then yes #agreed 15:43:53 <x1sc0> specially useful nowadays with the mix of opengl, gtk3, kde5, etc... 15:44:04 <djredaux> Well, I should say I agree that any change that would get more to do that would be useful. 15:45:58 <x1sc0> reported in https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2895 15:45:59 <IZBot> redmine: » Change Additional information to Add info from Help-About« in Infrastructure (Task for Xisco Fauli Tarazona) [New] 15:46:03 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> And zoo of linux distro 15:46:15 <x1sc0> I'll work on it asap 15:46:21 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> With their dustro problems 15:46:37 <x1sc0> ok, that's it 15:46:47 <x1sc0> any other topic before we close the meeting ? 15:47:51 <lo-qa-tg14> <Kompilainenn> I don't have it 15:48:47 <x1sc0> ok, in that case, see you around 15:48:58 <x1sc0> and happy triaging 15:48:59 <djredaux> Adios 15:49:31 <x1sc0> adeu 15:49:33 <x1sc0> #endmeeting