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16:01:24 <x1sc0> #topic rollcall
16:01:36 <x1sc0> hi everyone, QA meeting starting now
16:01:54 <x1sc0> let's wait 5 minutes to say if anybody else joins
16:02:00 <x1sc0> anybody here for the meeting ?
16:02:10 <x1sc0> say yo
16:02:24 <bearon> yo
16:02:28 <sophi> hi all
16:02:44 <buovjaga> yo
16:02:45 <bearon> sophi: good timing for the QA meeting :)
16:03:07 <sophi> bearon: thanks to telegram bridge ;)
16:03:39 <bearon> ha, neat
16:03:48 <x1sc0> yep, sorry for the timing in the last 2 QA meeting, but it was quite difficult for me at 16:00 UTC
16:03:55 <buovjaga> sophi: Xisco thought the Telegram bridge would be useless, but apparently you disagree :)
16:04:24 <x1sc0> I thought it would be useless, I disagree now ;-)
16:04:46 <buovjaga> you are a changed man :P
16:04:52 <sophi> buovjaga: yes, it's easier for me to follow telegram on my phone while working on something else on the computer :)
16:06:27 <x1sc0> sophi, you have the telegram program for pc as well
16:06:32 <x1sc0> it works quite well
16:06:38 <x1sc0> well, let's get started
16:07:03 <sophi> x1sc0: yes, I use both, monitor on phone, answer on computer
16:07:03 <x1sc0> anything you would like to get discussed today ?
16:07:45 <buovjaga> x1sc0: well maybe this particular bug tdf#108623
16:07:47 <IZBot> LibreOffice-Writer minor/medium UNCONFIRMED EDITING: More and more cpu power is needed while typing a document (without any assistance Autocorrect/Spell Checking) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108623
16:07:56 <buovjaga> should we close it without further investigation?
16:08:32 <x1sc0> why?
16:08:34 <buovjaga> I think developers will ignore it
16:08:43 <buovjaga> because it has been the same since 3.5
16:09:14 <buovjaga> and were are talking 0,xx percentages
16:09:56 <buovjaga> the latest change might be due to Harfbuzz, but I believe it will be considered an implementation detail
16:10:49 <bearon> what is unclear to me from the percentages if it's system CPU usage, or a single core usage? single core usage would be more relevant
16:10:54 <x1sc0> yep, the differences aren't too significant
16:11:09 <bearon> well, the report says CPU usage... so that's not very informative
16:12:00 <buovjaga> I have spent this day thinking about Telesto's reports :)
16:12:14 <bearon> i'd consider 6% of 25% (1 of 4 cores) significant, but there i'm not sure how much of that is a regression
16:14:04 <x1sc0> personally, I wouldn't consider that a bug, we keep adding new functionalities and features to LibreOffice over time, this is somehow expected, and it's not affecting the user's experience
16:14:17 <buovjaga> ok, I will close it
16:15:28 <x1sc0> if the bug said, after X words are typed, LibreOffice hangs, definitely I would consider that a bug, a serious one in fact
16:16:42 <x1sc0> LibreOffice 3.3 was released more than 6 years ago, 6% over that time isn't that significant, isn't it ?
16:17:24 <x1sc0> Computers have improved a lot in the last 6 years as well
16:18:48 <x1sc0> any other topic you would like to discuss ?
16:19:07 <marcoagpinto> yes, tonight I will file the tickets
16:19:09 <marcoagpinto> :)
16:19:18 <marcoagpinto> ahhhh... maybe just one
16:19:19 <marcoagpinto> :p
16:19:22 <x1sc0> marcoagpinto, welcome
16:19:33 <marcoagpinto> thanks
16:19:36 <marcoagpinto> >:)
16:19:37 <x1sc0> marcoagpinto, yes, help yourself
16:19:56 <bearon> x1sc0: when are new bibisect repos going to be available over git? (even partially, while newer commits are building)
16:21:12 <bearon> just curious, nothing particularly important
16:21:16 <x1sc0> #topic new bibisect repositories
16:21:22 <bearon> it was good to see them being built in CI :)
16:21:40 <x1sc0> https://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_bibisect_linux64_6_0/ has already caught up
16:22:13 <bearon> is there something you need to do to make it available for pull?
16:22:15 <x1sc0> and last commit it built was https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=d5b19100ca4d3670d1b5367e8000739af60a6892
16:22:17 <IZBot> core - tdf#100075 DOCX frame height rule updated
16:22:30 <x1sc0> so now we just need to do it available
16:22:50 <x1sc0> it's quite fast to do so, so we can do it at will
16:22:54 <x1sc0> when needed for instance
16:23:17 <x1sc0> I'll set up the windows one as well
16:23:35 <x1sc0> I also have to tag oldest in 5.4 ( I don't forget... )
16:24:28 <x1sc0> so I was thinking, while no one asks, I keep the repos building
16:24:38 <x1sc0> but I'll will do it available this week
16:24:52 <x1sc0> just in case someone needs it or want to play with it...
16:25:08 <x1sc0> bearon, is it ok ?
16:25:35 <bearon> x1sc0: sure, not urgent for me
16:25:43 <bearon> x1sc0: thanks for taking care of it
16:25:47 <x1sc0> ok, good
16:25:49 <x1sc0> np
16:26:17 <x1sc0> #topic LibreOffice 5.4 release
16:26:37 <x1sc0> from my side, I just wanted to say, as a reminder, that Libreoffice 5.4's release is approaching
16:26:55 <x1sc0> it will be in one month exactly
16:27:05 <x1sc0> RC1 was released last week
16:27:22 <x1sc0> and RC2 will be released next week
16:27:26 <x1sc0> #link https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.4
16:28:08 <x1sc0> so, if you have time, please spend some time playing around/testing it
16:29:14 <x1sc0> I have the feeling it's quite stable at this point, but any finding at this point can be fixed before the final release
16:30:47 <x1sc0> that's all from my side
16:30:55 <x1sc0> anything else you want to mention ?
16:31:15 <sophi> not from my side
16:32:56 <x1sc0> well, so thanks for your participation
16:33:01 <x1sc0> closing the meeting...
16:33:16 <sophi> x1sc0: thanks for the meeting :)
16:33:24 <x1sc0> #endmeeting